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2005年09月02日

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結局現地には一銭も行かねーのかよ。
http://www.hottokenai.jp/white/300yen.pdf

まぁ24時間テレビで集まった善意の募金より番組制作費の方が何十倍も大きいのではあるけども、それはそれでベタなお祭りにかこつけてでしか募金が出来ない人もいるのは理解できる。
啓発活動に意味があるという主張もわからんでもない。
しかしどうにもこの ＊＊＊ ってのは胡散臭くてしょーがない。
肛門に見えるし。

投稿者 KQZ : 2005年09月02日 17:36 | [EDIT]

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原価は4円だって。
「儲かってしょうがない」って目玉焼き関係者が言ってたよ。

投稿者 ｓ : 2005年09月02日 19:13

あー、やっぱり。
CFの流し方とか見てもアレですしねぇ。
僕イカ好きだからイカリングでも巻いてようかな。手首に。

投稿者 KQZ : 2005年09月02日 21:08

と言ってる間にオフィシャルのblogを発見。
なまぬるーくヲチ。

http://ssu.cocolog-nifty.com/whiteband/

投稿者 KQZ : 2005年09月02日 21:09

知り合いの間でもしている人が何人かいたし、薦められもしたのだけど、胡散くさ100％というのが匂っていたので手を出さなかったっす
三宅島募金に通じるものがありそう

ぜひ報道特集あたりで実態を解明してほしいかぎりですわ

投稿者 : 2005年09月03日 01:32

知り合いの間でもしている人が何人かいたし、薦められもしたのだけど、胡散くさ100％というのが匂っていたので手を出さなかったっす
三宅島募金に通じるものがありそう

ぜひ報道特集あたりで実態を解明してほしいかぎりですわ

投稿者 ケン : 2005年09月03日 01:32

KQZ様
頭痛いです。
これのSP相乗り企画をやっている人間います。
昨日ちょうど話ししていました。
ただギミックは考えているようですが。。

ついつい昨日の今日でしたので書いてしまいました。

投稿者 uto : 2005年09月03日 03:30

んー。んー。んー。
なんというか、アレかも。
タレントが身につけているアイテムをつけたくてもつけられないような貧乏人が喜んでつけているというか。
「つけたくても…」ってところでさもしさ爆発なわけですが、それに気づくようだったらさもしくはないのでしょうし、そこそこアタマがいいのでしょうから貧乏状態からも程なく脱却できるのでしょう。

そう考えると＊＊＊ってのは300円のクロムハーツみたいなもんなんでしょうかね。
「安いんだけどナカタがしてるのと同じ本物なんだぜコレ」って感じの。

願わくば、三週間後とかに来るであろうホワイトバンドの一斉廃棄（「飽毀」という言葉を思いつきました）のタイミングに、おバカさんな子供達が考えもせずに燃えるゴミにポイ捨てしてしまったとしても、有害ガスを出したりしない素材で作られていますように、と。

投稿者 KQZ : 2005年09月03日 04:18

随分と熱くなっておられますなぁ。

確かに組織はうさんくさいかも知れませんが、付けてる人までそこまで叩くのはちとやりすぎではないですか？

純粋に善意で付けてる人もいる訳だし、善意がポーズとして示せ、しかもそれがファッションにもなるのなら乗っちゃいます、程度の下心ならかまわんでしょう。

ファッション性を持たせることで層を広げるというのは（動機が崇高であれ実は不純であれ）主催側の意図であり、そちらからすると成功な訳ですな。
もちろん、ただのファッションに堕しているのではないかとか、ファッション性を失わないために派手な広報活動を継続し続けなければならず、集まった費用がそれに消えていくのはどうよ、等ということはあるでしょうが（流石に東京タワーは引いた）、いずれにしてもそういったシステムで運動をし始めた側の問題であって、責めるべきはあくまでそちらではないかと。
ネズミ講のような明確な悪のシステムに乗った訳ではあるまいし。

投稿者 Feanor : 2005年09月03日 15:49

＞純粋に善意で付けてる人もいる訳だし、善意がポーズとして示せ、しかもそれがファッションにもなるのなら乗っちゃいます、程度の下心

じゃあ、バカなんだから叩いていいんじゃないか？

投稿者 こばん : 2005年09月04日 23:52

●Feanorさん
別に熱くなってなんかはいないんですが。ｗ

ファッションであるならなおのこと、というか。
例えば結婚式に礼服着てるのにウィングチップ履いてるヤツは不粋と笑われても仕方が無いのと同じです。
自分がなにをつけているのか、そこにはどういう意味があるのか、それこそがファッションのファッションたる由縁だと思うわけで。
善意だろうが関係なくファッションとしては野暮天もはなはだしいと。

今回の場合、サイトでもちょいと検索すれば「現地に一銭も送らねーぜ」「広報って名目で全部使うぜ」と気持ちよく宣言しているのですから、それでもいいって人はそういう人なんでしょう。
というかこういう代物がヤフオクで1,000円を超える値段でやり取りされてたみたいですし。もうなにがなにやら。

ちなみにやってる人間に関しては裏は取れましたんで既に興味なし。

●こばん
もうキミは口がわるいなぁ。（棒読み）

投稿者 KQZ : 2005年09月05日 00:42

(・∀・)ﾆﾔﾆﾔ

投稿者 Feanor : 2005年09月05日 02:47

さてさて。
上のAAで軽く上がろうかと思ったんですが気が変わってしもうたのでちと継続。

＞自分がなにをつけているのか、そこにはどういう意味があるのか、それこそがファッションのファッションたる由縁だと思うわけで。
＞善意だろうが関係なくファッションとしては野暮天もはなはだしいと。

そりゃ歴史に培われた共通認識が引き出される例であって、最近産まれたファッションを批判する際には、ちと例えとしては不適切では。
それに今のファッションって最早その由縁が関係ない気がするし（特に「最近の若いもん」にとっては）。

ということで、

＞今回の場合、サイトでもちょいと検索すれば「現地に一銭も送らねーぜ」「広報って名目で全部使うぜ」と気持ちよく宣言しているのです
＞から、それでもいいって人はそういう人なんでしょう。

こっちが本旨で、するってぇとつまり結局
＞じゃあ、バカなんだから叩いていいんじゃないか？

が本質を突いているのだなぁ。こばん氏読み深し。

投稿者 Feanor : 2005年09月05日 03:03

当然だが、ファッションは「自分をどう見て欲しいか」という気持ちの表れである。そしてホワイトバンドのように明らかにメッセージを発信するものは、着用する人にそれが持つ意味を引き受ける覚悟を求める。何の意図もなく着用するものではなかろう。
もちろん、Feanor氏の「歴史に培われた共通認識が引き出される例」という、おそらく高校の教科書で齧って丸覚えしたけど使い方まで理解してなかった語彙を持ち出してきたとしか思えない意見とは何の関連もない。

例えば、ファッションはそれをまとう者に対して、「　(・∀・)ﾆﾔﾆﾔ　」というＡＡを捨て台詞にしてレスをスルーして一段上に立つふりをしようと思ったが、逃げにしか見えないと気付いたため、主張もなく、揚げ足すら取れてない書き込みで馬脚を８メートルほど出す人と同等の表現責任を求めるといえよう。

よくわからないが、Feanorとかいう人もバカみたいだから叩いてやる　ペシッ

投稿者 こばん : 2005年09月05日 03:28

追い討ちをかけてみる。
バカFeanorなんか死ねばいい。

投稿者 こばん : 2005年09月05日 03:30

つまるところ日本の民度もすぐに火事場泥棒が起きる超大国や近隣の変な国の人たちと変わらんということだね。
もうすぐ「だまされた」とか騒ぎ出すバカ×２なやつが現れるのかね。
「だまされたあんたがバカ」といってやりましょう。

そんな俺は健食と介護用品中国で作らせて日本のマルチ業者に卸してる国賊です。
反日デモに行ったコに「何で行ったんだ」って聞いたら「だって若い姉ちゃんがいっぱいいるんですもん」だって。
まるで全共闘時代だ。

ただ、某社は今回は儲かるかもしれんが今後仕事やりにくくなるのでは？キムタクの駅貼りポスターの前にガードマン立たせてバカ煽って、業界人に「よくやった」と言われてた頃とは会社の規模も社会環境も違うような気がする。
今はこんなメディアもあるしね。

この利権についてはもっと面白い選挙がらみネタもあるからカッキーにはメールするね。

投稿者 s : 2005年09月05日 09:32

なんだなんだこの展開は。（棒読み）

「ファッションであるなら」と初手から限定しているという指摘だけで終わらせてしまいます。　ペシッ
補足すると「元からファッションだなんて思ってない」「あえてファッションだと仮定したとしてもひどいもんだよね」という流れです。

●Sさん
メール届きましたー。
バレると大変なことになりそうっすね。ｗ

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投稿者 七誌 : 2005年09月05日 13:31

なんか変にもりあがってるなぁ。（棒読み）

ちなみに「目玉焼き関係者」というのはお台場にあるテレビ局のことではありませんのでそこらへんお間違いなきよう。＞読者各位
英語で目玉焼きをなんていうのか、とかそういった感じでご理解を。

投稿者 KQZ : 2005年09月05日 15:07

えー、そんなバカバカ言うとわたしゃ泣いちゃいますよ。

というか、別にこばん氏を叩くつもりじゃないんですよ。
ここに見えないところでちょっとした遊びを仕掛けておったんですが、見えない方の前で誤解するような書き方をしてしまったので、バカバカ言われてもしょうがないですねぇ。てへ。

投稿者 Feanor : 2005年09月06日 00:49

ペシッ

投稿者 こばん : 2005年09月06日 01:06

こばんという人は絵に描いたような大人気ない人なので傑物。

投稿者 KQZ : 2005年09月06日 02:07

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